minnie3, I think the point eudoraeyes was making is that people don't HAVE to pay our taxes to attend our schools. I have to disagree with you on some of your points though. My kids never went to preschool anywhere, but they do just fine in school, and a LOT of their friends are from neighboring towns. They also do not and will not attend the pool, people have their own conception about pools, but personally I think they are nasty places for germs and contaminates, no matter how many chemicals they dump in them. I have lived here for 38 years, and very few of us that went to school hung out together, we usually would hang out with the kids from Lawrence and DeSoto. However, that was when all the farm kids and such would hang out and do things together, we would have parking lots FULL of cars in town on Friday and Saturday night and just hang out and visit with each other. Now, kids in Eudora can't afford to hang out and cruise around because gas is so expensive, but even if they did, some police officer would run them off, because they are not allowed to just hang out anywhere anymore. Our town is dying from lack of money and lack of interest in creating something for our kids to do. Why would any teenage kid hang out in Eudora when there's nothing here for them. If you look around and observe, you will find that our high school kids, actually know as many or more kids from Lawrence than they do from Eudora.
Funny how Mr. Durr told me that he hasn't gotten a contract yet. I spoke to him on Tuesday. Even the school board said at their meeting on Thursday the 8th, that they could now move forward with getting the contracts signed, and issuing some bonds, and starting the final process to get the projects ready to bid. The even stated that bids would be going out sometime in January or February. But I guess greenman knows everybody's business, since he is the forum president. Don't pay any attention to the minutes of these meetings or talk to the people involved, because president greenman knows all the facts already.
There hasn't even been a contract signed for the property with Mr. Durr yet. Bids for the new school projects will not even be let until late January or early February at the earliest. There is plenty of time for whatever happens to happen.
drthyofoz70, NO I was not involved with ACE, knew several members. I never said that they didn't attend the meetings, I saw them at the meetings. I just said that they found out, as many others have, that addressing the city council and recommending change isn't possible. I was at one of the meetings when they had a representative address the city council. Mayor Pyle tells everyone that addresses them during public comments that they have 5 minutes maximum. He doesn't want to hear about good ideas unless they are on the agenda.
And no, I am not interested in being a member of any political group. I have enough things to do, trying to pay my enormous taxes and raise my kids. However, I would support good council or mayor candidates and get behind some and help them campaign. But to make a change, someone needs to get involved soon and prove to the people that they care about making a change. There are many, many people that attend their first council meeting AFTER they are elected. Would be nice to once have some people that were up to speed BEFORE they get elected.
Good luck with trying to make a difference, too bad most of us will be broke before it happens.
What's the name of the group? ACE Again? Or People That Complain But Don't Attend Meetings? LOL I have been to several council meetings in the past, there are less than a handfull that attend every meeting, most only attend them if they are on the agenda. Just as that ACE group did, attended a few, then lost interest. Been there done that MW. If you REALLY want to make a difference, get these people in the paper and have them run for office, otherwise, it's just more smoke and mirrors and the Pyleatics will still rule the city.
MW sounds like you should run for city council or get some of these people you speak of to run for it. Sure didn't happen the last election. Where are the mayor candidates? Hope not that Scott Hopson dude, already been there done that, he was one of the worst council members in history, wanted to argue with everyone and criticize all of the employees. The only way to make a change is to find people that will run for the positions. Mayor Pyle has conveniently limited public comment time to 5 minutes or less so that he can "run" the town. Good luck, you have a while to get a successful campaign started.
You're fighting a losing battle with that one MW. Remember the ACE group, they were supposed to "watch" the city council and advise them on things for the city. They quickly faded away. It's no coincidence that the mayor limits your "public comments" to no more than 5 minutes at the council meetings. That way, he doesn't have to listen to "good" ideas from the citizens.
The school board, just like the city council, has positions that are open every two years. The ONLY way to make a difference is to elect people to those positions that have the same views as the citizens. Unfortunately, as we have seen in the last election, not enough people care about it to run and give a choice. Remember the city council positions? Three positions open, three people running. Mayor position open, one person running.
simpsonmomm, if you would attend some city council meetings, you would find that the pool contractor is now incurring penalties for not finishing on time. Should it have been done cheaper? Sure, but just as the school bond, you have too many people wanting to spend, spend, spend, that vote for this stuff and don't realize the consequences to come. Some of us just can't afford to pick up and move, like the ones that passed both of these things and living in the newer parts of town. Maybe some of them should have driven around and looked at all the for sale signs in town before they voted. It's not getting any better.
maybe mr yesman, whoops, greenman should run for city council, him and DCCCC could get up there and fight about screwing up the city together.
btw, there will be no more building outside the existing city limits until the lawsuit that RWD #4 has filed against the city. That will no doubt be an expensive and long process.
Fire Department Suspensions
I have nothing to add to this thread, just wanted to be the 200th post in it. Have a nice evening.
November 19, 2007 at 7:44 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
The Facts
minnie3, I think the point eudoraeyes was making is that people don't HAVE to pay our taxes to attend our schools. I have to disagree with you on some of your points though. My kids never went to preschool anywhere, but they do just fine in school, and a LOT of their friends are from neighboring towns. They also do not and will not attend the pool, people have their own conception about pools, but personally I think they are nasty places for germs and contaminates, no matter how many chemicals they dump in them. I have lived here for 38 years, and very few of us that went to school hung out together, we usually would hang out with the kids from Lawrence and DeSoto. However, that was when all the farm kids and such would hang out and do things together, we would have parking lots FULL of cars in town on Friday and Saturday night and just hang out and visit with each other. Now, kids in Eudora can't afford to hang out and cruise around because gas is so expensive, but even if they did, some police officer would run them off, because they are not allowed to just hang out anywhere anymore. Our town is dying from lack of money and lack of interest in creating something for our kids to do. Why would any teenage kid hang out in Eudora when there's nothing here for them. If you look around and observe, you will find that our high school kids, actually know as many or more kids from Lawrence than they do from Eudora.
November 19, 2007 at 6:40 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
The Facts
Funny how Mr. Durr told me that he hasn't gotten a contract yet. I spoke to him on Tuesday. Even the school board said at their meeting on Thursday the 8th, that they could now move forward with getting the contracts signed, and issuing some bonds, and starting the final process to get the projects ready to bid. The even stated that bids would be going out sometime in January or February. But I guess greenman knows everybody's business, since he is the forum president. Don't pay any attention to the minutes of these meetings or talk to the people involved, because president greenman knows all the facts already.
November 16, 2007 at 8:11 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
OLD HOME on New Proposed School Ground
There hasn't even been a contract signed for the property with Mr. Durr yet. Bids for the new school projects will not even be let until late January or early February at the earliest. There is plenty of time for whatever happens to happen.
November 13, 2007 at 10:19 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
City Growth Planning group ?
drthyofoz70, NO I was not involved with ACE, knew several members. I never said that they didn't attend the meetings, I saw them at the meetings. I just said that they found out, as many others have, that addressing the city council and recommending change isn't possible. I was at one of the meetings when they had a representative address the city council. Mayor Pyle tells everyone that addresses them during public comments that they have 5 minutes maximum. He doesn't want to hear about good ideas unless they are on the agenda.
And no, I am not interested in being a member of any political group. I have enough things to do, trying to pay my enormous taxes and raise my kids. However, I would support good council or mayor candidates and get behind some and help them campaign. But to make a change, someone needs to get involved soon and prove to the people that they care about making a change. There are many, many people that attend their first council meeting AFTER they are elected. Would be nice to once have some people that were up to speed BEFORE they get elected.
Good luck with trying to make a difference, too bad most of us will be broke before it happens.
November 12, 2007 at 10:12 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
City Growth Planning group ?
What's the name of the group? ACE Again? Or People That Complain But Don't Attend Meetings? LOL I have been to several council meetings in the past, there are less than a handfull that attend every meeting, most only attend them if they are on the agenda. Just as that ACE group did, attended a few, then lost interest. Been there done that MW. If you REALLY want to make a difference, get these people in the paper and have them run for office, otherwise, it's just more smoke and mirrors and the Pyleatics will still rule the city.
November 12, 2007 at 7:20 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
City Growth Planning group ?
MW sounds like you should run for city council or get some of these people you speak of to run for it. Sure didn't happen the last election. Where are the mayor candidates? Hope not that Scott Hopson dude, already been there done that, he was one of the worst council members in history, wanted to argue with everyone and criticize all of the employees. The only way to make a change is to find people that will run for the positions. Mayor Pyle has conveniently limited public comment time to 5 minutes or less so that he can "run" the town. Good luck, you have a while to get a successful campaign started.
November 11, 2007 at 3:41 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
City Growth Planning group ?
Like I said, wont happen as long as Pyleatics are going on.
November 10, 2007 at 10:04 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
City Growth Planning group ?
You're fighting a losing battle with that one MW. Remember the ACE group, they were supposed to "watch" the city council and advise them on things for the city. They quickly faded away. It's no coincidence that the mayor limits your "public comments" to no more than 5 minutes at the council meetings. That way, he doesn't have to listen to "good" ideas from the citizens.
The school board, just like the city council, has positions that are open every two years. The ONLY way to make a difference is to elect people to those positions that have the same views as the citizens. Unfortunately, as we have seen in the last election, not enough people care about it to run and give a choice. Remember the city council positions? Three positions open, three people running. Mayor position open, one person running.
simpsonmomm, if you would attend some city council meetings, you would find that the pool contractor is now incurring penalties for not finishing on time. Should it have been done cheaper? Sure, but just as the school bond, you have too many people wanting to spend, spend, spend, that vote for this stuff and don't realize the consequences to come. Some of us just can't afford to pick up and move, like the ones that passed both of these things and living in the newer parts of town. Maybe some of them should have driven around and looked at all the for sale signs in town before they voted. It's not getting any better.
November 10, 2007 at 7:51 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Well it was a close one....
maybe mr yesman, whoops, greenman should run for city council, him and DCCCC could get up there and fight about screwing up the city together.
btw, there will be no more building outside the existing city limits until the lawsuit that RWD #4 has filed against the city. That will no doubt be an expensive and long process.
November 9, 2007 at 4:45 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )